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If you don't have a web site but want to get your message out, I'll add your story below.  Send in whatever you want within reason.  Just click on the email link above.

Also post your problems to the public Daimler-Chrysler Vehicle Problems Message Board.

Sorry for those that have been sending in their stories and I haven't posted them.  Just too busy to keep up.  Make sure you check the notice on the home page.  Contact Kevin at the WSJ!  Maybe he can help get out the word. 

I'm also sorry if you did not want to be contacted by him directly.  I saw no harm in forwarding your complaints to him directly.  I didn't have time to contact all of you personally to ask permission.  Since many of you were asking for help, this was an opportunity.

 

 

Some simple rules to follow when sending in your Chrysler story:

Nothing pro-Chrysler gets posted here.  You can call me and everybody names in an email but you won't get it posted.  If you are really out there with a comment and I feel you are sincere, I might post you in the Hall of Bigots.  This site is about problems.  People can read pro-Chrysler material directly from their website.

I won't post any personal information such as your full name or email address UNLESS you ask me to do it.

If you want to send pictures that help tell your story, try to size and compress them to fit the web page.  JPG is preferred.

If you didn't properly maintain the vehicle and it failed, I wouldn't blame Chrysler.  Therefore I don't recommend you flog them publically on this site unless you paid to have something you damaged fixed and there were service related problems.  Ok?

I don't spell check or correct your text.  I'm not into requiring people to be English majors to tell their story.  I do think stories that are properly written will have more value to the readers.  You decide.

Keep it clean.  It's a public site.  Vulgarity is ok when you are dealing with Chrysler privately but I'll have to edit it out here.  I don't want to get banned by some of the watchdog programs such as Kangu.net.  I already made their list temporarily because of the site name.

Messages that offer assistance in any way to the readers of this site are generally welcome.  Yes, even those from Chrysler directly.  But no psychiatric self-help suggestions.  Most of us have it together mentally.

It's OK to comment about previous stories.  Before you do, remember rule #1 - Nothing pro-Chrysler gets posted here.

If you are looking for help with your problem, you can post it here and MAYBE somebody will read it.  I have no resources to help. Sorry.

Send your story

 

Contributors to this site

The stories below were sent to me by email and posted on the blog this site used to have.  I might bring it back someday.  Until then, I'll try to keep it updated manually.

Oldest stories on top.

 

JB - 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo - 29,800 miles

I have a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo that's a lease that was stickered at $33,000.
 
I had to get new rotors at 18,000 miles.  Now, at 29,800 miles guess what! I need new rotors AGAIN. Chrysler refuses to cover it under warranty even those there are pages, and pages, and pages about this problem on the internet and they know about the problem. I can't wait for this lease to be up.
 
Icing on the cake...my BRAND NEW CAR was RUSTING - that's right folks, RUSTING, at 15,000 miles, so I took it in to have the rusty parts replaced so my car didn't look ghetto and they scratched my car up - admitted to it - told me they would take care of it - threw some clear coat over the scratches and gave it back to me. They said they "couldn't fix the scratches because they would have to repaint the whole car". Unbelievable. This was a "5-Star Certified Dealer" best of the best right!

Jennifer - 1998 Dodge Durango - Purchased  Fall 2005

I would like to give you a little insight on our situation. Last fall, I bought a 98' Dodge Durango. It was perfect, inspected it, took it for a test drive, it was in wonderful condition with service records and a newly overhauled transmission. I drive this car every day, put my kids in it, and take it to the mountains. Drive it in the snow, the rain, and the sun. 3 months ago, I could have bet you one of my children this car would get you from point A to point B without a problem. my significant other is an engineer and keeps close tabs on our vehicles. I am also a clever female who makes strong note of how things work and maintains my vehicles to be sure of no major issues. This being so...................here's where the trouble begins......
 
In June, a coil wire cracks, and the car needs a part that cost $40. No problem. The car has been my best friend!!!! So I think no big deal. take it to my local dealer to be sure the right parts get put into it by the right service dept., good call right? WRONG! with the coil wire, and all the RECOMMENDED services, I pay $600. Ok, fine. Better for the car to get the proper services by a proper dealer. The same day its done, I take it home, it stalls and I barely make it home. the dealership says its another issue, I have to have it brought in. My better half says no, we will fix it our selves. In the mean time after getting a transmission service done by the dealership, I, like normal, check the tranny fluid, dangerously low!!!! They just did a service, did they leave it out? Did they forget? So I monitor for 2 days, making sure I don’t have a leak. Nope, no leak. So a month later, its still having a problem, I leave to California for the third death this summer, and my better half is driving it home from my grandmothers memorial service when the transmission fails!!!!!! WHAT???? yes, it fails. Mind you it has a newly rebuilt tranny done by a specialist. So my better half gets it towed home. calls the dealership the next business day. They say they are sending someone right over to get it in to the shop. 3 days later a tow truck shows up. 3 days later? what happened to right away? guess they took a long lunch. So a week after its towed, they tell us, "well its your problem, we didn’t leave any fluid out. And if it was low, its YOUR fault, cause you’re a woman and you don’t know how to check it properly." WHAT? a woman, and that makes me ignorant? Ok, this is getting personal. So now, we have a problem. A car that was running fine, now needs a major overhaul. After talking with the service manager, he agrees to give us 50% off parts and labor, funny huh? Seem as though they are taking some blame? Yup! We go for the overhaul $2000. say ok, I guess. We don’t really have another option. The car is  broken, and now it needs to be fixed. So 3 weeks later, promise after promise of tomarrow it will be ready, they call me and say "come get your car, its done." How joyful I am to be getting my car back!!! It was only supposed to take a week, but since they gave us a deal, all the sudden we were low priority. Go figure.
 
So I go to pick up my car! I walk in, take my paperwork and my keys. They say "all ready, we test drove it, works great!"  Get in my car, start it up and go. Funny, it seems a little slow. I think to myself, ok, you haven't had it for over 4 weeks, might just need getting used to again. So I go home. almost home....wont shift, feels like im towing a boat! Something's wrong. very wrong. Im sure, even though To the DEALERSHIP im a woman, and ignorant when it comes to knowing if my car is acting odd, or how to maintain my vehicle. SO I open the hood, its HOT, hot to the touch, that never was like that before. So I call the dealer, they say "bring it back. we will give you a loaner." Ok. I take it back. scared im going to wreck. I get there, go inside, give them my keys and paper work. They give me a minivan, on empty. Fine, go put $30 in it. I get 4 miles out and it breaks down. call, go back, and they give me a Neon, on empty, wont give me my $30 I just put in the van. Fine, not really comparable to what I gave them, but ok. The next day, they call my better half and say "she's paranoid, there's nothing wrong with the car, come get it." He says, " if I come down there, there better not be anything wrong with the car!"  The dealership says, " no, nothing wrong, we drove it. And we don’t know what she's talking about." He goes down there, goes on a test drive, and sure enough, there's a problem. So the dealer tells us, it will have to wait until the tech comes in on Sat. ok, fine. Mind you, this transmission they just overhauled the same day, had a warranty. 1 yr, 12,000 miles by this dealership. On Sat. they call us, tell us it needs a valve body that’s going to cost $800. What happened to the warranty? gone? Doesn’t cover that. but its part of the transmission. nope, they say since they never touched it, its not covered. What did we pay for then? our car is still broken. They say its not their problem, and the part is back ordered. Ok, so what are our options? nothing. we pay the money, let it sit until the part comes in someday? wow! and they claim they are five star service.
 
We have researched this, and it’s a very common problem. we cant afford to get this repair that was supposed to be covered in the first place. Its like getting your kitchen remodeled. but after you pay, they never did the cabinets. And when you ask, they say they aren't part of the kitchen. go figure. What to do?
 
Can you shed some light on this? Daimler Chrysler customers are getting screwed. this is awful. I can count on 2 diff times that me being a woman, was the root of the problem in their opinion. And they made that very clear. I would love it for you to confront Daimler Chrysler in Monroe about their sexist, fraudulent, and Consumer robbing practices.

Melinda - Missouri - 2006 PT Cruiser

In may 2006 I bought a fully loaded PT Cruiser, and since lost the oil in my engine not only once, but twice. Not to mention that I had a spark plug foul out between the two oil incidents. The second time my engine lost oil I demanded a thorough investigation of what the damage would be to my engine because I drove forever and the OIL LIGHT NEVER CAME ON!!! I had to go to a local store, buy oil so that I could drive my car to the dealership and then demand that they refund my cash for the oil. When I heard back from them I was told they were replacing the engine in my car and when I picked it up my service summary said "excessive play in crankshaft, replaced engine short block assembly." (Because the best possible solution is to replace only the bottom half of my engine, forget the rings and pistons, they don't mean anything). Then I have taken the car back three times for the belts squeaking and finally they told me even though they hear the noise from the engine, they cannot service my car until the check engine light comes on.

I demanded they buy my car back, emailed Chrysler once, didn't get a response, bombarded them with emails daily and still didn't get a response, called another dealership and finally got a phone number of a local representative who would "help" me in my situation, which has escalated so far for me to retain an attorney (which literally didn't help me at all) and am still trying to figure out my way out of this mess.

Chrysler is offering to replace my vehicle, but it will cost me an outrageous amount of money out of my pocket and my finance company won't extend my loan AND pay the difference in sales tax on the two vehicles. OR they will give me an extended warranty, OR make a car payment, OR install a new engine (how will that resolve anything if Chrysler has had an oil consumption problem with their engines since 2001?!?!?!). Of all the times I have taken my car in for service I have had a loaner car for about 30 days since I bought my car.

Missouri Lemon Law basically protects the manufacturer, not the consumer, I cannot demand that they repurchase the vehicle from me if they offer to replace the vehicle and I am not free to shop for a vehicle I would rather have. I am TRAPPED in this piece of crap with a whistling engine that can be heard from all directions and a halfway rebuilt motor. My car is sluggish, stalls out and NOT at all what I expected to pay $23,000 for. I am limited to picking a Chrysler, Dodge or Jeep product that matches the sticker price of my car, and have to pay Chrysler 20 cents a mile for the mileage I put on my car. I hate Chrysler and will never buy from this company again nor will I recommend my friends or family to buy from this company.

Sunday, March 16, 2008, 03:20 AM, Gordon G

I am 53 years old and have been aware of Chrysler products and their cheap and inadequate entry in the american market place. I know better than to spend my money on anything that they make. I knew when Damilier Benz bought them that the only thing that could happen would Be the best car maker in the world combined with the worst could only bring the best down. I am not sure that the worst made any improvements, but I know Mercedes has taken a toll. Now that Damlier Benz has dumped them after their quality control problems came from Chrysler. I am no idiot but the fools that keep buying this piece of junk need to just deal with it . Chrysler = cheap piece of junk.
P.S
I OWN A CADILLAC, LEXUS, AND TOYOTA 4RUNNER

Monday, March 17, 2008, 03:00 PM, Steve


i have a comment that i was a manager for chrysler and it never failed to see how many complaint after complaint was not being addressed especially with the radio issues that are junk and also they're so called first day rent crap and read a cust had purchased a veh and was told after 5 days of rental the cust will be responsible for the rental well that's not true the co.should had called for additional day's to be covered for cust and especially they have to send the car out for another co.to repair well i will agree with most of the people on this site especially suspension issue and electrical nightmares with 300-intr-vans all have to many issue's to drop so before any other complaints are brought about before going to the dealership i pretty sure i can answer most of your questions and what to be aware of before you go into a dealership! so any question send them to (
steveseldon70@yahoo.com) so keep in mind maybe i'll open up a website just to help resolve some unresolved and tell you guy's the next step you can take?

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 06:13 AM, Brian
 

Want proof Chrysler is the worst automobile manufacturer and worst out of the big 3 American auto companies?

The proof is that they have far more websites against them and angry consumer complaints that can be found on the internet than even GM and Ford COMBINED. They also have more complaints and websites than any other automaker in history.

Chrysler makes garbage. For those that say Mopar or No Car, if they want to settle for substandard vehicles just to be a brand loyalist at all costs, fine with me. I love laughing as I see more late model Dodge, Chrysler vehicles broken down on the side of the road, not because of flat tires either than any other brand of vehicles.

Chrysler has proven that its marketing is nothing more than a scam and that they don't really care about customers.

http://www.dontbuydodgechryslervehicles.com

Also visit
http://www.youtube.com/dcxsucks

Can't wait for them to go under due to all the internet sites against them informing people in regard to the truth about Chrysler.

Don't even get me started on the ridiculous premature problems, defects and failure I've experienced with my two Chrysler vehicles.

Great site, keep up the good work!

Sunday, April 6, 2008, 09:15 PM, Waqqas H

I bought my 2002 Chrysler Sebring in 2005. It had 25,000 miles on it. I was told by the dealer that the car was driven by a senior citizen, and it's practically new.

Within a month, the battery failed. $150
A few months later, the alternator had to be replaced. $200
A few months later, the transmission got messed up. $1700
Then, a few months later, the headlight went out. $60
A noise started to eminate from the car. The dealership told me it was nothing, and it was a sign of the car getting old. $250 (to diagnose it!)
Engine light came on. Dealership told me it was O2 sensor. $300
Brakes needed to be replaced cause they were squeeking. $350

They squeeked still, and I went in 11 (ELEVEN) times. Each time I was told they couldn't fix it or that they fixed it and the noise came back while I drove home.

$1800 and many excuses later, they said they fixed the noise completely (it was some CV-joints, and ball-bearings, and the brakes being too slippery or something).

Engine light again. This time, the clock-spring in the air-bags. $220

Engine light AGAIN. And now it's April of 2008. It's been 2 years and 8 months, and I've spent so much money, I could've gotten a better/newer car to begin with!

I'm *NEVER* buying a Chrysler again. In fact, I'm never buying an American car ever again. This is the last Chrysler, and I can't wait to get rid of it!

Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 12:44 PM, David M

I purchased a Dodge Caravan for my wife in 2003. This was a brand new top of the line Caravan with from what the salesman told me the best warranty in the industry. 3 months after we purchased it, we were driving down Hwy 59 in Texas about 3 to 5 miles from our home and it started to rain. The rain was very heavy to the point that we had to pull over and wait 5 minutes to see. When we arrived at our home about 10 minutes after the rain had started, we shut off the van, went inside and waited for the rain to stop. About 30 minutes later the rain stoped. You have to imagine that on this day a record high temperature was met in Texas. I think it was around 110 degrees that day. We then went out to go somewhere and the van would not start. Nothing! No engine turning noise at all. We called the dealership and they told us not to worry, they would send a tow truck to get it and fix it. They did send a tow truck. The tow truck elevated our van, and this is very important to remember. The van was elevated to a point where it was not level and water would not sit on the van!!! or in the van!!! They towed it to the dealer that was closest to our home. The next day we get a phone call from the dealer telling us it would cost $6000.00 to fix it. It seems that the rain somehow got in UNDER THE HOOD AND INTO THE COMPUTER CONTROL BOX AND FLOODED IT! If that was not enough, they also informed me that my warranty would not cover this as it was a flood. I informed them that there was no flood it was a rain storm. They told me that they had pictures of water sitting ontop of the engine block to prove it was flooded. Now imagine this! One: This was one of the hottest days in Texas, 110 degrees outside. What was the temperature in my engine compartment.... ? Higher than that no doubt. Also the tow truck raised the van to tow it leaving the van un-level so any water that might have been sitting on the engine block that did not evaporate the day it sat in this record high Texas heat, would have simply rolled off, but they claimed they had a picture of this. They still have not shown me this picture! I then called Chrystler to ask why it's not covered by the warranty and they stated that my warranty does not cover floods. I informed them that I had my van's interior cleaned by a company the day before the this happened, I had a reciept to prove this and a letter from the cleaning company stating that this van was not flooded at all. All they needed to do was shampoo the kid dirt and food from the seat that my 1 year old daughter had spilled. Christler still insisted that this van had been in a flood and they would not pay to have it fixed. Then it dawned on me that not only did Chrystler make this van and the warranty that they refused to cover, but they had also financed it as well. So I informed them that they could do what ever they wanted with the van, I would not retrieve it or pay for it, and have not. I purchased a new vehicle for my wife 5 days after this happened. You can imagine I am sure the problems Chryster has made for me since then. They even went as far as trying to make a claim with my insurance company to recover thier losses. My insurance company called me about this claim and I explained to them all of what I just told you and Liberty Mutual told me not to pay and they would not pay as well. They informed me that they would sue Chrystler if necessary over this issue. I know this is long and I apologize, but I HATE Chrysler now. I am a mechanical engineer and have a relatively good idea of how this kind of design engineering works. If Chryslter thought that this computer that controls the engine was septable to water, they could have very easily made the box that contains it WATER TIGHT! NOT WATER PROOF MIND YOU, SIMPLY WATER TIGHT. A face seal that cost about $1.00 would have prevented this issue, but Chryster who recruites there engineers from Cracker Jacks Boxes never thought of this and to this day avoids the issue. I want to tell the world about these theives and ruin as many sales as I possible can for the discomfort they have caused me. 3 years later, I am still getting phone calls from collection agencies about this. They will not stop it! I am telling you this in hopes that you can direct me to a web site where I can write this out and let as many people as possible know about it. I have even thought about starting a web site myself. The front page of the site would be a Dodge Caravan with a big red circle around it and a red cross through it, like you see in Ghost Busters... Can you direct me to a site that i can post this story, only written with some thought, dates, times, temperatures so people can see how the money hungrey idiots at Chrysler act.

Thanks,

David M.

Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 03:55 PM, Dave S

I'm glad you've taken the time to create a web site like this. I wish I knew about it before I bought an 05' Caravan SXT. I actually bought an 04 Caravan, but took it back after a couple of weeks when the interior started falling to pieces. I then bought an 05'. Two months later, and I was ready to get rid of it as well. Since I've owned it, the brakes went @ 19,000 miles. The air bag sensors had to be replaced. The oil pan leaked and had to be re-gasketed. The electrical system does quircky things every now and then. Paint has chipped off around the windshield pillars. Very poor quality, sub standard materials, and shoddy engineering. This is my last American car. Looking to Toyota or Lexus for my next set of wheels, or I will be looking at something purely electric, such as a ZAP, Tesla, or one of the new Mitsubishi MIEV's due out next year. I've sent Chrysler emails, but the only reply I get is "Ve're sorry". More like "We're sorry you didn't buy a more expensive vehicle from us!".
Then, I came across this web site:
http://www.chryslerlistens.com
What a joke! You can only give them a piece of your mind of 1000 characters or less! They obviously could care less. I gave them a piece of my mind. Everyone else should as well, for what ever it's worth.

Dave

Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 12:54 AM - Tony P

My 2007 Chrysler 300 has a bad motor, my service contract will fix the problem at no charge to me. The problem im having after two weeks Chrysler sent Hall in Va Beach a half motor with missing parts. Chryler dont keep 2007 parts in stock.

 
Mon 7/7/2008 6:39 PM - Michelle P

I own a 2006 Chrysler 300. I bought it brand new and am the original owner. I have taken this vehicle in on several occasions for a number of different problems. The first problem was just a few months after I purchased it. The vehicle would just turn off on me intermitently and it idoled funny. Of course, they said nothing was wrong with it and it idoled normally. It happened again, so I took it in to a different Chrysler dealer who again, told me they couldn’t find anything wrong with it. The next problem was the a/c. This has been going on since, but according to Chrysler, my car that turns off on me is perfectly normal! They said, bring it back next time it has the problem. Well if it shuts off on me, how am I supposed to bring it in! The next problem was that the gear shifter got stuck in park. Well, I know a tow truck driver and when I first purchased the car he laughed at me and asked if it had been stuck in park yet. He said he tows about 3-4 a day and its something that should be recalled but since Chrysler is too cheap to recall it, people keep getting stuck. Well sure enough, I went out to my garage one day and the wonderful Chrysler was stuck in park! I called the dealer and even the service advisor said, "Oh yeah, we have quite a few of these come in!" I cant believe you pay thousands of dollars for a vehicle and expect that as a new car it will be reliable. If they have these problems all the time, why is there not a recall? I read that Chrysler refuses to recall things just to save them money and they also have their technicians say there's nothing wrong with the vehicles so they don’t have to pay out tons of money to repair their crappy cars! Never again will I buy a DM vehicle!

Fri 7/11/2008 2:13 AM - Galey D

Hi: Thank you for the opportunity to vent my frustrations. Against my better judgement, I purchased a Chrysler 300 1.5 years ago. With less than 18,000 miles, it has already been in the repair shop twice for major problems. The first time, the torque converter was replaced, yet the problem still exists without having been solved. This last episode, however, involves a real safety issue. While I’m driving it, the car just suddenly dies. The engine abruptly stops working. When this happens, I am barely able to steer the car safely to the curb. I took it to the dealership from where I bought it and I’m told that the “problem can’t be diagnosed because it’s not showing up on the computer.” I’m pissed. This car cost $25,000 and is not safe to drive. Who knows when it will suddenly cut out again, with no warning whatsoever? On the freeway where everyone is traveling at 65 mph?

Since the problem cannot be duplicated at the dealership, it cannot be resolved and I am left with no other option than to drive the car as is. The dealership is Jim Marsh Chrysler/Jeep in Las Vegas, Nevada.

I have therefore informed the dealership that if anyone gets hurt as a result of the obvious defects of this car, I will sue. I feel that this is my only option, unfortunately.  I am holding the dealership personally responsible for the safety of the passengers who travel with me in this crappy, piece of $#it  car! I am livid over this situation. Needless to say, I will NEVER buy another Chrysler product and truly feel empathy for those of you who have had similar experiences. After doing a brief internet search, I was able to find numerous complaints of the exact same nature as mine. There are stories of Chrysler 300 owners out there who are driving along and, out of the clear blue, their engine dies, sometimes with injuries involved. No deaths yet though that I know of.

This is not acceptable. I feel that I’ve been ripped off. I have a life and a job, and I need this car to get back and forth to work. When my car’s in the shop, I’m homebound. It is no wonder Chrysler has the lowest customer satisfaction level of any of the major car makers. It is a well-deserved reputation and I hope others are able to read this before purchasing their products!

Galey < >, dissatisfied Chrysler 300 owner.

Fri 7/11/2008 2:30 AM - Lynn & Freda H

On March 1, 2008 I pulled my 2007 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 into my driveway. I left the truck running with the lights on and let my little dog out. I unloaded supplies and let my dog into the house. I reached in and turned the key off. Instantly the truck started rolling backwards. I could hear a clicking noise. My first reaction was to pull up on the shifter as I thought it must be out of gear but it was not. I remember yelling for my husband then I don't remember anything until I realized that I was about 15 feet away from where it started rolling, flat of my stomach. I looked over my left shoulder and the tire was right beside my head. It ran over my arm just below my shoulder. I also had large abrasions on both knees, my right hand and a bruise about 12"x3"across both hips where the door hit me. My arm was black and blue for 2 weeks and a MRI showed torn tendons and muscles in my shoulder. I have since had surgery and I still have problems every day with my arm. I am also being treated for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. We contacted Chrysler and was told that it was my fault as I should have not left it running. The service manager where we bought it says the transmission did not go all the way in to park and when I turned the key off and took the forward momentum off the truck, backwards it went. If I can ever get rid of it I will never have another Chrysler product. We had just purchased the truck in November of 2007 so we were too much upside down in it. I have to drive it but I am terrified of it.

 

Fri 7/25/2008 10:55 PM - Jerry & Lucille S

Passing through Mobile, AL on the interstate, the left side front undercarriage of my 2002 T/C burst into flames, made a sharp left turn across traffic (all going faster than the posted limit), came to rest in a grove of trees and immediately burst into flames. There were 5 other passengers able to get out only because one of them was able to break a window. None of the doors or window switches worked. I suffered 3 and 2 degree burns by the time they got to me and than spent two and a half weeks in a burn unit in Mobile. I'm suing Chrysler for poor design and also not sending me a necessary part update for the area in question. They say it's my fault regardless of what following vehicle passengers saw and attested to under oath.

 

Sat 8/2/2008 12:50 PM - Rob B

You think that you have it bad in the US...try Chrysler UK...We own a 2004 Chrysler Voyager (Town&Country in the US) they cannot provide us with a front wing! The wings are not being produced in Europe any more??, the insurer cannot get them supplied from the US so my local dealer has 6 cars off the road and another 9 waiting. When manufactures start letting customers down, US cars are getting a bad press. I have been looking at top end Dodges but now getting a Jag XJ.

Regards  Rob

Sun 8/3/2008 4:57 PM - Matt

Hello.  I very much enjoyed reading the content on your website.  I have been an auto repair tech since 1993 and have been working at a Chrysler/Jeep dealer since 1999.  Perhaps the overall problem is summed up by the statement "Chrysler doesn't sweat the small stuff."  In my opinion, the products are "half-baked."  They simply don't get the details right.  For the most part, the big things (engines and transmissions) are OK.  The engine in your 300M, the 3.5L, is and has been a solid performer.  It's the little things, window motors, rotors, outside temp, etc., that they refuse to address. 

We purchased a slightly used 2007 Chrysler Pacifica (in Sept 2007) for my wife.  I loved the car at first.  Then I started to notice all the little glitches...I don't even feel like typing them all out...but here's my "favorite":  on EVERY engine start, there is a clatter noise for about 2 seconds.  It is very similar to the noise an engine makes when you change the oil and filter, the clatter while the oil filter fills up and the oil system pressurizes.  This "problem" makes me want to dump the car in a hurry.  Inexcusable in a car with 10,000 miles.  I have noticed other 07 Pacificas make the same sound, so I have given up without even trying to remedy it.  There is no technical bulletin.  I suppose I could call technical assistance, but honestly, I don't have time to rebuild this vehicle.  I can imagine that if it was a customer's car, the answer would be "cannot duplicate" or "normal operation."

Feel free to email me.

Matt 

Fri 8/8/2008 12:44 AM - Bob Chase

NOTE:  Not sure if Bob is still chasing this problem and working on the suit. 

Please contact me if I can help in any way. I own a 2002 PT cruiser. The web is full of stories about these chrome coated wheels. They leaked air for years and were an increasing inconvenience but in the last year the 2 front tires need to be filled every 2 days! They lose 15 lbs per day due to the bubbling from the corrosion that prevents the tire to seal properly. The other day , I lost a right tire after 50 miles of travel over a 7 hour workday because it went flat after I filled it that morning. I had Goodyear put on a new tire for $100.    I contacted the Chrysler Recall phone number 1-800-853-1403 to inquire if they are on the list and when told no they said they have not had this problem. Ask any reputable tire shop and you'll find this problem in the 1996-2003 era is quite rampant. I was told to go to my dealer so they could diagnose the problem. The warranty manager said he wouldn't extend the warranty and since it had 124,000 and I should have had it done in the first 36,000. How was I to know that my slight inconvenience would rust it's way to this magnitude of decay. They obviously know they had a process that was faulty. The following info is important to get the government to pressure companies like D-C to issue a recall. I encourage everyone that have a legitimate safety problem to file a 2 minute form online at the National Highway Transportation Safety. Once they receive a lot of similar complaints, they will put pressure on them because they won't issue one on their own.  The attached photo is one of the wheels. Notice the peeling of chrome and the corrosion where it has peeled away. I would like to begin a class action suit so if you can post for others with this exact problem to contact me, I would appreciate it. If I can do that, I will set up a special e-mail strictly for that purpose. https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Bob Chase

leakydcwheels@yahoo.com is the email acct that I set up for those to send me their information if they want to do a class action suit. It may take a while to collect enough names but we'll see what happens. Please post it next week. Thanks

 

Thu 8/21/2008 11:28 PM - Jillian R

Where do I begin...  

Let's see, my mother bought me a 1999 Chrysler Cirrus for me after I got my license when I was a senior in high school. Personally, I wanted a Toyota or a Honda (because those are GREAT cars) but I was just grateful to have a car instead of having to ride the "cheese-wagon" to and from school everyday. It was fine for awhile, then the problems started.

First, the oil light kept coming on, we discovered it had a leak. It was fixed, however, the oil light STILL kept coming on. We assumed it was just an electrical problem. Next, the windshield wiper fluid would not come out. It was full. Another electrical problem. I had a vehicular accident in which left the side of my car was torn up. Later, the air conditioner broke down and with black leather seats in the Louisiana summer heat, it's not too fun.

Then, when I got my car checked for freon I was told that my air conditioner was leaking and it would take about $1,200 to fix it. Not happening.

And finally, the peace du resistance, I noticed just today that the battery light was on in my car. I took it to AutoZone and was told that the battery was on the bottom of my car. Wal-Mart couldn't do anything about it so, once again, I took it to the same mechanic I went to before and he told me that it was my altinator that was out and because of that, my battery was literally running on 12 volts. It's gonna take over $400 to fix it and it will be, because I commute back and forth to college every day.

I've f*cking had it with this piece-of-crap excuse for an automobile. Me (and my mom) are saving up to buy that Toyota or Honda I've always wanted.

Thanks for reading my rant!

 

Fri 8/22/2008 5:18 PM - Paul S

Hi,

I own a Dodge Ram 3500 truck that is a piece of crap.  The transmission in this "heavy duty" truck makes an impressive amount of grinding noise when actuating the clutch.  Chrysler told a service rep at a 5 star dealer, who told me that I was the first person to bring this up to them.  During the same call to the Star team (Chrysler's engineering folks who aren't necessarily mechanics, but have to defend the crap they design), the also told the service rep that this noise was normal.  Of the 10 cars I've owned, 7 have had manual transmissions.  I KNOW what a bad throw out bearing sounds like. 

So, we've been to the dealer for the minimum number of visits required by the Idaho lemon law statutes.  We are going to arbitration next week with Chrysler through the National Center for Dispute Settlement (NCDS).  Any advice?

This will be the first and last Chrysler I ever buy.

Cheers,

Paul

 

Tue 8/26/2008 11:51 PM - Jeff M

2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee purchased Jun 01 brand new from Carmax in Texas.

   1200 miles that’s right 1 thousand 2 hundred miles, car dies in the middle of the freeway all or most of the dash lights are lit up and it won’t start up.  Called the 1800 number in the owners manual and they showed up and towed to nearest Jeep dealer (which is about 400 miles from my home) one week later they call and said it’s ready to be picked up, the camshaft sensor went out and took the electronic ignition and the computer with it, fixed under warranty,  Bum a ride to the dealership and pick up car, car runs rough but I want to get home so I drive it home and take it to a local dealer the next day.

   Tommy Maunal Jeep is the dealer and they said they couldn’t locate the problem, they said we could pick it up and drive it or leave it there and they would look at it some more.  One month later they call and say it’s ready to go, they wouldn’t say what they did but the receipt had a engine gasket kit on it so I think they had to pull the head for I’m guessing a valve problem, fixed under warranty and anyway it’s running good so off we go.

   About 40,000 miles, wife goes out of town and the passenger windows falls down, like into the door, turns out to be a bad window regulator, about $230 and one afternoon to install myself.

   60,000 miles and the car won’t start on the first try but usually on the second, take it to Tommy Manual and they say it’s the fuel pump, $500 and some change and we are back on the road next day.  Sometime later we start smelling gas after we fill up, not to surprising since we are at a gas station and I see no leaks on the ground when we get home but the check engine light is on, car is running fine so we continue to drive but every time we need to get it inspected I just disconnect the battery to reset the engine light (it usually takes a couple days to come back on) and were fine, still smell gas.  I inspect further and find gas on the bottom of the tank so I drop the tank and find the big plastic nut that holds the fuel pump assemble in is cross threaded and the pump is not seated fully in the tank.  The dealer didn’t bother to drop the tank, like they said they did, they just let it down far enough to reach up and slip in a new pump, this is the only reason for not seating the pump and ring properly that I can think of.  Oh well problem of engine light and gas smell fixed.

   Shortly there after the drivers side window droops, window regulator #2, $230 bucks and a couple hours of work, I’m getting pretty good at these now, I’ll shorten the story up and just say we have put 5 window regulators in.

   Engine starts to not start on first try again.  I get a new fuel pump assemble and install it myself.  Problem doesn’t go away, I had changed the fuel filter at about 60,000 miles with a Fram brand, I change it again with a Purolator almost twice the price and the problem is gone.

   At about 100,000 miles the car starts to overheat when in traffic, I discover the radiator fan isn’t working so I change the fan relay, no luck I change the fan and it solves the problem.

   120,000 miles now the car dies when it is idling, mileage and performance are fine, no miss, vary smooth running (for a 4.0) but it will just die and start right back up, not sure how I will attack this problem but one thing is for sure this will be my last Jeep.

   On a side note at 40,000 miles when I had to put new tires on it I decided since it had a full size matching wheel as a spare I would use that and buy 3 new tires of the same kind, all was fine but I could hear a thumping noise coming from the older but still new tire, I found a small flat spot appearing on the tread, so I go to Goodyear and ask about any kind of warranty and they said I would have to go to the dealer since it came on the car, Carmax said I would have to go to Goodyear, (sound familiar) Goodyear looked at the tire and said I must of slammed on the brakes and put a quarter size flat spot in the middle of the tread, no kidding they thought I was stupid enough to believe it.

   The drivers seat is 6 inches lower than the rest from use, and I’m under 200 lbs.  The left taillight has gone out more times than I can count.  I know it’s a common problem but the headlight lenses are getting pretty foggy from age.  It takes a couple cans of Freon to get thru the summer anymore, nobody can find the leak.     

   It’s a tough vehicle but what a maintance nightmare.  There is a reason it was priced so far below the competition, I looked into getting rid of it but after 7 years my trade-in value is about as much as a nice dinner for the family, guess I’ll just keep it and continue to fix things as I can and hope it dies a slow death.

Thanks for letting me rant.

Tue 9/9/2008 11:51 PM - Greg W

I bought a new 2007 Jeep Wrangler X Unlimited 4 door, and it came from the dealer with a Skyjacker 4" suspension lift,  Pro Comp tires, and Incubus wheel package. I was driving  yesterday, and made a turn into a development, and noticed that the steering went 'soft'. I called Daimler/ Chrysler's customer service dept(which I learned is out sourced to India, and after several frustrating conversations with "Mike", and "John", I finally got towing arranged to go to the local dealer for inspection. I got a call later from the service manager claiming that a bracket that attaches the front differential and the steering mechanism was broken and that they would not warranty it due to the suspension lift. I have checked with 2 mechanics, and a body shop, and with Skyjacker, and all tell me that there is absolutely no connection to the lift and with the bracket being broken. The body shop estimator called another Jeep dealer, and their service manger said that they would fix it, but only if the vehicle had been purchased at their dealership. I won't even get into the debacle of trying to communicate with customer service people in India! Another service employee at the dealership(Jasper Jeep,in Jasper Georgia) also said that I had to have hit something hard, or driven the vehicle rough for this bracket to break--neither of which is true. I asked the service manager what percentage of all Jeeps out there that get lifted. He estimated that 75-80 percent eventually do. I then asked that , if that were true, then, if having a lift causes this to occur, why was there no epidemic proportion of occurrences with this problem. He had no answer. To admit that lifting a vehicle causes such a problem to occur is an admission that their product is unfit for what most people purchase them for, lifting and off-roading. So much for the 'toughness' of Jeeps, and so much for relying on their warranty. They would rather invent some reason to divert away from their responsibility, than to protect their own reputation and name by making good on the factory warranty. I will never own another Chrysler product after owning 4 Jeep Wranglers, 1 Dakota, 1 Durango and 2 Jeep Cherokees. My son was in line for a Ram for his 17th birthday, but it will not happen now. They saved a few hundred dollars,(1800.00) but will lose tens of thousands, because I will see to it that others know what kind of company that they are, and point as many as I possibly can away from anything that they are involved with.

 

Sincerely, Greg W

Thu 9/25/2008 12:58 AM - Harry C

My complaint is a saftey issue with the hydrolic pistons on the hood and trunk. I was loading groceries into my trunk today and as I started to lean forward the trunk slammed down and hit me on the top of my head. I started to pass out but I recovered to find a 1' x 3" hemmatoma on the top of my head. The trunk and hood have both done this before but fortunatly I was not under them then. The hood and trunk are quite heavy and could cause a fatality. I looked on the recall list but I saw no mention of this problem.

Tue 10/14/2008 6:49 PM - Buck B

I have a 99 Chrysler 300m with 118,000 miles.  We have replaced the driver's side power window motor/regulator 3 times.  Twice out of warranty.  The dealership admits to the part as a problem, but they just say sorry when they charged us $400.  I googled and got your website. 

Dude, you rock!

I saw your section on the power window problem.  This motivated me to fix it myself.  As soon as loosened 1 screw on the power wind motor, the window immediately began working again.  I just saved a ton of money.  Other than that, I have luckily not had any other problems with the car other than a nasty smell with down shifting the autostick when slowing down rapidly.

Thanks again, for posting all the remedies.

Buck B

Wed 10/15/2008 3:59 AM - Kim F

Greetings,

First, I wanted to say how much I appreciate your website :)

I just finished confirming, by reading on the "Consumer Guide Automotive" website, the same thing that we were told when we purchased the above mentioned car - it was to have a 7 year/70,000 mile power train warranty, in addition to the 3 year / 36,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. (Warped brake rotors weren't covered though - surprise!)  Now, I have been told by not only several dealer repair shops, but also by Chrysler themselves at their 800 number, that some 2002 Ms have the 7 year warranty and some don’t. They all asked me for the VIN, and all came back saying that my car is one of the 2002 Ms that does NOT have it - the car's warranty was 3 year / 36,000 miles ONLY. (We purchased the car new in May of 2002, and it blew a head gasket in April of 2004 at 17,000 miles!!  They did repair that.)  When I asked WHY some cars had the 7 year warranty honored, and others did not, the jerk I spoke with at Chrysler refused to say anything further - he told me to write a letter to their P.O. box, and refused to give me their physical address. This is one of the worst cases of massive fraud and deception I have ever seen.

Could you please advise me where I could go to get legal help for this problem?  (I live in the Seattle, Washington area.) Would you by chance have the phone number for the Attorney General of the state of Michigan, where Chrysler is located?  I would surely appeciate any help you could provide for me!  (And feel free to publish my name and contact info if you want.)

Best Regards,

Kim F   pilot223@hotmail.com

Thu 10/23/2008 8:35 PM - Mrs. LP

I HAVE A 2006 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY
 
I WAS DRIVING TO WORK WHEN I STARTED NOTICING THAT MY FRONT BRAKES WERE GRINDING AND SQUEAKING VERY LOUDLY. I TOOK THE VEHICLE TO MY USUAL MECHANIC TO HAVE IT LOOKED AT AND FOUND THAT MY PADS WERE GONE, METAL TO METAL WITH THE ROTORS. THERE WAS ONLY 18, 000 MILES ON THE CAR AT THE TIME AND FAILURE OF THE BRAKES WAS PREMATURE. MY MECHANIC WAS SHOCKED THAT A VIRTUALLY NEW CAR HAD SUCH SEVERE BRAKE EROSION. I NEVER HAD AN INDICATOR TO LET ME KNOW THAT THE BRAKES WERE GOING BAD. FRONT AND REAR BRAKES WERE REPLACED AND THE FRONT ROTORS WERE REPLACED. A TOTAL OF $600. ABOUT A YEAR LATER AT 38,000 MILES THE SAME THING HAPPENED ALL OVER AGAIN WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE BRAKES CHECKED BY MY MECHANIC AND HE SAID THE BRAKES LOOKED LIKE NEW. AND NOW TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, MY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT IS ON.  AND GUESS WHAT??!!! IT IS NO LONGER CONVERED UNDER WARRANTY!!!  OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
CHRYSLER SUCKS AND THEY SHOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS!!!! I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER GM, CHRYSLER OR FORD VEHICLE NO MATTER WHAT NAME THEY GO UNDER THE VEHICLES ARE STILL BADLY CONSTRUCTED.  CHRYSLER SUCKS!

Fri 10/24/2008 10:15 PM - Craig L

MY COMMENT - May 2009:  How things have changed in such a short time!

Let's hope that Chrysler gets "bought" by GM then gets squashed by GM.  I kept telling friends not to purchase that Chrysler junk, but they insisted.  I get tired of hearing about all the problems with their junk.  Even their highly publicized Hemi engine is a piece of junk.  And, don't get me started on Cummins crap.  Yet, people remain stupid enough to purchase that crap.

I wish they would just go away forever.

Wed 11/5/2008 5:58 AM - Suzy S

Chrysler Sucks!!

I bought a brand new 08 Jeep Wrangler 4-door in Sept 08.

With in the first 6 weeks (under 700 miles) it had been to the service department 4 times, twice on a tow truck!

I recieved the most disgusting customer service all the way up to the general manager!

I will never purchase another Jeep (or anything else) form Roberson Chrysler in Salem Oregon!  EVER!

Hi,

 Thu 11/27/2008 6:18 AM - info

   I bought a low mileage (33,000) jeep cherokee classic in 2003.  My two close friends are mopar nuts but apparently love working on their cars.... I don't.  They recommended this vehicle as I was told that the 4.0L engine was one of chryslers best.  So far, the engine is smooth but it's surrounded by other lame parts. After 5 years and 50,000 mostly highway miles with oil changes every 3000 miles,  I have had to replace two sets of front rotors and resurface them every year that they weren't being replaced.  Two mechanics (beyond my mopar friends) have told me about the poorly designed braking system that has the fronts take 95% of the vehicles weight.  ( The back brakes need to be adjusted at least twice a year and don't wear as the front takes the load.) .....  The paint is poor and there are ripples in the rear quarters ( the vehicle was never hit. )  The front speakers in the door go on and off randomly.  The seats have rips in the sides ( I am only 150 lbs ).  The 'service engine' light came on twice over the years with the problem being bad sensors.  ...  I would like to say this stuff is normal for a vehicle with 83,000 miles on it until last week when the differential blew out.  TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.  ....  I've had two other cars in my life ( gm & honda ) that went over 100,000 miles with no major problems beyond regular standard maintenance of tires, brakes, fluids or a radiator hose.     I may push this Jeep vehicle thru the local Chrysler/Jeep dealers window and leave it there

Fri 12/19/2008 3:36 AM - John

I bought a new 1998 Dodge Dakota. Loved it for awhile. First problem came under warranty. All dash instruments went heywire. They fixed it no prob. A "Cluster Loom" replacement. Now, my rotors are warped & remain so. Can't stop that from happening shortly after replaceing them. Next was the headlight switch. Replaced that. Then my speed sensor died. Next was my paints clear coat dying on my cab roof (repainted at my expense for $400.00 +). Now the hood is going the same route. My BIGGEST problem for the past few months is my engine. It keeps dying and backfiring at intervals. I've had it in FOUR garages including a Dodge dealership, but NO ONE can fix it. In fact, they say they don't see any issues I claim to have. I'm 60 yrs old. In my ENTIRE adult driving life I have NEVER owned a car that couldn't be fixed. So, what the hell do I do now? I've spent about $2,000.00 on this POS in the last year and a half.

 

Sun 1/4/2009 9:37 AM - Oscar C

Hi,

My name is Oscar and I'm currently a jeep commander owner that is having issues with Chrysler and getting my vehicle considered a lemon. I was curious as to how often your website is updated, I will explain why. I'm about to be leaving Alaska due to  a military move and I will be driving all the way to North Carolina. I plan on making this jeep a moving billboard about how much Chrysler sucks. I will be driving through Alaska, Canada, Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Louisianna, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, and finally North Carolina , and I'm trying to get as much attention as possible. Of course I would like you to post some pictures on your website if possible. Also I would like to advertise your website, with your permission of course. Please let me know if this would be possible and if you would approve of your website being advertised.

Sincerely,

Oscar C

 

Fri 1/9/2009 11:57 PM - Larry D

 At 30,000 miles my 2006 Town & Country needed new brake pads and rotors in the front and new brake shoes in the back at a cost of over $700.00. No warranty coverage as these are "wearables."

Today, at less than 50,000 miles, it cost me $420.00 to get a Vermont Safety Inspection sticker. The gas filler pipe was leaking (who ever heard of that?) and an airbag sensor had failed. Oh, and according to my long-time and well-trusted mechanic, the front pads are "...showing some wear, so let's keep an eye on them."

Last month at the same garage my 10 year old Toyota with 140,000 miles on it passed inspection with no problems. With one barke job at around 80,000 miles, by the way. Wearables my butt!

This car is a piece of junk and it won't be long before its gone.

L. D

Wed 1/14/2009 10:09 PM - Jacks C.

I am writing to voice my dissatisfaction with my 2005 Chrysler Town and Country, and my dissatisfaction with a very rude Sales Manager at Brighton Chrysler and Jeep.

Approximately one week ago, I called Chrysler customer service to file a complaint regarding the numerous problems with my van.  (Currently the van has 65,000 miles.)  Those complaints include extensive corrosion on the back hatch; airbag light illuminated; engine light illuminated (for the third time – required new EGR valve and new O2 sensor in 2008); broken back sliding door; front driver seat falling apart; struts on back hatch replaced in May 2008 due to extensive corrosion of the struts; turn signal switch replaced.  

On Thursday, January 8, 2009, I went into my salesman at Brighton Chrysler.  His name is Mike R and he is the Sales Manager.  I informed him of my multiple problems and asked if there was a number I could call at Chrysler to discuss the issues with the van, especially the illuminated airbag light, which is my most current problem with the van.  I voiced my concern about the airbag light as I read that my airbags are disabled when the light is illuminated.   He informed me that I could call whoever I wanted but that Chrysler will do nothing to help me.  He stated that he was going to be upfront with me about Chrysler.  He said he has customers with 38,000 miles on their car and their cars are falling apart, and Chrysler will do nothing to help them.  However, he told me that he would call the service center about my airbag light given that there was a recall on the 2005 Town and Country airbag system, and he would call the collision center and ask about the rust on the back hatch (I had to have the back hatch replaced due to an accident in approximately July 2005).

I did not hear back from Mr. R that day, so I called him the following day.  He was a bit short with me and said he had not heard back from anyone yet.  I again voiced my concern about the airbag system being disabled and felt it needed to be fixed ASAP.  He assured me he would call me back as soon as he heard back from his service center.

Today is Wednesday, January 14th. I still had not received a call from Mr. R.  At approximately 12:45 p.m. I called him at Brighton Chrysler.  I asked him if he had heard back from anyone regarding my airbag system recall and/or rusted back hatch.  He abruptly told me that there was no recall on my airbag system and the back hatch was a used back hatch with no warranty.  I asked him if the airbag recall was repaired back in May 2008 when I had the van in for repairs.  He then said to me: “Call service, I am done with this, OK.”  He then hung up the telephone!!  I couldn’t believe it.  I was not rude, nor was I pushy about my issues.   A grown man, THE SALES MANAGER, hung up on me!!

To say the least, I am appalled at this behavior.  I am a business owner and can’t imagine treating anyone as I was treated by Mr. R. 

Furthermore, I find it inexcusable that he neglected to call me back about my airbag system.   I guess it’s a good thing I haven’t been in an accident!

I will never return to Brighton Chrysler.  In addition, I think that given Chryslers current economic status, they would make sure employees, especially a Sales Manager, treat their customers with courtesy and respect.

 Wed 1/21/2009 3:49 AM - WS

Bought a 2006 Dodge Ram Cummins.

Converted it to run on refined vegetable oil in addition to the standard diesel.

Have fully maintained the vehicle from the beginning.

About six weeks ago, had a major engine malfunction....an intake valve 'dropped' and struck the cylinder (for those of you who don't know..the intake valve is NEVER in the 'down' position on the upswing of the piston).

Ruined the piston, shot some of the broken and bent valve up into the head and ruined that, and then sent some through the turbo.  All told, about ten grand in damages.

The dealership "said" they called their Dodge rep, told him about the damages and the alternative fuel.  And without seeing or any further research, Dodge refused to honor the warranty.

They've provided ZERO evidence that the alternative fuel caused the damage, or that it even COULD cause it.

Now the dealership is saying that they're 'in the middle'...and that the lack of coverage under warranty is up to Dodge, not them.  And they're demanding payment, won't release the truck, and are threatening to auction it off to recover what costs they can...which obviously isn't anything.

 

Wed 1/28/2009 6:52 PM - Sean & Jess

Sean & Jess 2001 Chrysler Sebring with ~98k mi.

I need to make this quick because I have my business to run, but I just came in from adding transmission fluid in the 5 degree weather, so I need to vent our story. After I owned a 98 and an 01 Dakota my now wife thought she was being smart and following my advice by purchasing a 2001 Sebring Sedan. It was her first purchase and she bought it new. Both of us bought into the Chrysler Renaissance of the 1990’s.

I have been the custodian of the vehicle’s care since 2005 with ~60k mi.

As you will see the total of repairs is not extravagant, but at least two of these failures could have been catastrophic had they not happened in the driveway. We have toyed with replacing this vehicle several times, but due to the reputation of Chryslers and especially the 2.7L engine it has been worthless for several years. My frustration is that most of these failures are due to use of extremely cheap parts and poor engineering. The Design (especially mechanically) may have just been too ambitious, but the areas that the saved money are potentially huge safety concerns. There have been precious few recalls on this vehicle an none dealing with any of the issues I have had. I suppose they will only move if the death toll forces the government to make them do it. We are now in a financial position where we must make this car last as long as possible, but it seems like there is something new every day. In contrast my vehicle is a 2001 Toyota 4Runner with easily twice as many mechanical components (and safety features). It runs awesome with 110k mi. No creaks groans or rattles. Toyota has recalled these vehicles at times and guess what, they fixed the problems they found, voluntarily! 

Tire rod end: 65k mi – “My wheel fell off,” as my wife puts it. The left tie rod end separated as she was backing out of the driveway causing the tires to point at each other. I came home an attempted to replace the tie rod. Turns out the inner cannot be separated from the steering rack, so we ended up having it towed to my work (I was working at a Toyota

Dealership) and a technician replaced the both tie rods and the steering rack when he could get to it on his spare time. Inspecting the failure revealed that the joint had completely lost it grease long ago (same with the ball joints). There are no zirc fittings on these parts as they are intended to be “permanently” greased. Aftermarket parts have these fittings because this a known flaw. 

                Total: $500

 Oil Pressure Light: 65k mi – The “Oil Pressure” light began to come on at idle or when coasting. A little research found the oil pressure was fine, but the pressure sensor was faulty. I replaced it on a Saturday using the lift at work. The part was less than $15, but it is located on the back of the engine and behind the exhaust. Upon removing the sensor I found that it was actually leaking oil through the sensor itself. One year after replacing it the light came on again. I replaced it again in my driveway. 

                Total: $30 plus many busted knuckles.

 Right Upper Ball joint: 80k mi – “My other wheel fell off.” Again backing out of the drive way the right front wheel went up into the wheel well after the upper ball joint separated. Another tow bill (extra because it was stuck in our driveway’s snow bank). It was making a ton of racket, but the noise was miss-diagnosed as “sway bar bushings (this is a common, but non-life-threatening problem on Toyotas).” 

                Total: ~$300 and a case of beer.

Left Upper Ball Joint: 90k mi – The other side began making noise and I had it repaired at an excellent local shop.

               Total: $175

Crankshaft Position Sensor 95k mi – The “Check engine light” came on and since I now own an On-Site oil change business I purchased a code reader. I diagnose and replaced both the crankshaft and camshaft position sensors.

                 Total: $90 plus $100 for the reader 

Right rear upper strut bracket 97k mi – “Ice rattling” We began to hear a horrible rattling sound in the right rear. I pulled back the trunk carpet and found the strut was completely free from its mount. Removing the spring and strut revealed that the bracket that holds everything together was made of aluminum and had literally shattered into 12 pieces. It was one of those while I am in here, but I replaced the struts, mounts and brackets on both sides (it was 5 degrees).

Interestingly enough when I went to the local Dodge parts (who have always been great) counter they stocked three of them and they are now an improved part made of steel. I looked and could not find so much as a TSB on this! The bracket itself was $18. 

                Total: $ 180 plus rented a spring compressor from Advance

 Auto Transmission Clamps 98k mi – This is today’s fun. Over the last week we have been finding tranny fluid in different places and finally figured out it was the Chrysler. I originally thought it was the pan gasket (which may be leaking), but this morning after wrestling with the air box to get it out of the way I can clearly see fluid coming out of the lines going to the transmission and the transmission cooler on the radiator. This one should be cheap to fix, but incredibly frustrating.

These lines are held on with cheap spring clamps! All four ends are leaking. I haven’t fixed it yet, but the clamps should be cheap (but apparently too expensive for Chrysler to use the right ones).

                Total: $30 (clamps plus 8.9 quarts of trans fluid)

 Quickies

                The blower fan “failed” twice under extended warranty and then I bought another one to replace it a third time. When I removed the fan I found lint was causing it to run out of balance. I took the blower back. 

                The locking mechanisms and windows are beginning to make noises 

                The left rear speaker hasn’t worked in years. 

                It goes through about 2 quarts of oil between changes. ( I am hoping to only have to replace the pan gasket).

                I am sure there is more that I can’t think of, but this should be a good list for now.

Sean S

Sat 1/31/2009 2:26 PM - Sandra & Dave

I have noted that a message from galey d, reporting about the problems with her car.

I drive a grand voyager, death trap too. 

It really is too long to go into, but the positive note, that over 2,500.00 gbp later and independant diagnostics engineer found the reason that my car kept stopping.

If your car is diesel and the glow plug light comes on as the engine dies, please have the "electronic governor" checked, it is to do with the fuel supply, it may be called something else where you live. But after all the time, money and near death experiences whilst the engine dies, it cost just 350.00 gbp.

I really hope it can be of use to you.

Chrysler needs to brought down. I am still spending money every year, and i can never get rid of it, as i spent in total over £9000.00 gbp,( dealer and repair fees )  and it only cost £7,000.00 gbp.

Good Luck

Sandy

Tue 2/3/2009 8:30 PM - Brandan T

1. 1989 Plymouth Sundance Coupe.

 I purchased this while in the US Navy.  Our ship had just returned from a 6-month deployment and I was itching to drive a car.  My previous car, a 1980 VW Dasher, was offed in a car accident before my deployement.  I put the proceeds into a bank so I'd have money for a new car.   Why oh why did I walk into McCune Chrysler-Plymouth and pick out the first car I saw?  A silver Sundance coupe, 4cyl, auto tranny, am-fm stereo cassette, no air (I lived in California).  It was fine since all I ever did was drive it for fun, as I lived on the base and didn't have to commute.  For 2 years, I drove it for fun and in spite of some interior quality problems (the console was made from extremely flimsy plastic), I liked the car.  The hatch didn't like to close and I had some issues with peeling weatherstripping.  Oh, and I orded floor mats which took them three months to get.  Whenever I asked about them, I got such an attitude from the jerk at the front desk.  Found out they had been sitting at the counter all that time.  I hope McCune has gone bankrupt 

I got out of the Navy in 1992 and drove the car cross-country from San Diego back to my hometown of Philadelphia, PA.  My uncle drove back with me.  The car behaved like a champ, even though the stereo speakers started acting up, and the factory cassette started munching on my tapes.

When I got a job later that year which required a daily commute 52 miles, round trip, the car began to implode on me.  In less than a year, in no particular order:

Replaced brakes three times.

Tripod on the axle broke, causing the front wheels to wobble horribly.

Transmission died.

Alternator died - twice.

Replaced struts

Front wheels went constantly out of alignment

Side windows fell out of tracks whenever I had to roll them up.

Aftermarket sunroof developed leaks.

As long as you handled this car with kid gloves, there was no problem.  To ask it to perform a daily commute was like asking Yul Brynner if he wanted a haircut.  Couldn't be done.

In 1994, after I replaced the tires, brakes and got the wheels aligned AGAIN, I drove to the market to get my grandma some ice cream.  It was hot and humid out, so I rolled down the windows, which promptly fell out of their tracks - both of them at the same time.  That was it.  The very next day I took the Sundance to a C-P dealership in Norristown PA and traded it in for a.........

2.  1995 Plymouth Neon Sport Sedan

Since I drove mainly for commuting purposes, I naively leased the car, for less than my monthly payments were on the Sundance.  It was the stupidest thing I ever did.  I had an option to trade after the lease was up, but by then the car was so broke that I ended up buying it and getting my bank to refinance it.  So I ended up paying for this car for almost nine years.  Youth is the time for stupidity - get it out of the way.

I thought then that my flame red Neon was an improvement over the Sundance.  Better-looking, better-handling, more powerful engine, air conditioning, power door locks, cruise control, tilt wheel - it may as well have been a Mercedes.  Handled like a dream.  I didn't even mind the loud engine or the hard plastic interior panels - it was an economy car, right?  Nitpicks.  But within two years?

Brakes replaced three times (first time under warranty)

Brake rotors replaced twice

Air conditioning seized up (I was laid off at the time and couldn't afford the $900 required to repair it.

Engine oil leaks

Clanking noise from rear suspension

Power door locks failed - the fuses kept burning out because of the alarm system I had to put in the car after it got robbed by the lowlife thief simply using a coat hanger to pry open the frameless glass to get to the lock.

Stereo would cut off and on with a mind of its own.

Fuel injector problems (one of my brother's friends would fix for me on the cheap)

Once again, constant alignment problems

Replaced alternator twice

Water-based paint job started to pit and to peel.

What was funny was that at least four times I ran into people who owned Neons and they always asked ME if I had problems with it!  LOL, my cousin and her BF bought a used one, ignoring my advice until their AC seized the day after their warranty expired.

After I finally paid it off, the alternator died - AGAIN.  I left it in the parking spot until the City of Philadelphia towed it 'cause my registration expired.  They wanted $300.  I told them to go and f**k themselves - I was happy to get rid of the car.

 Thank heavens for your website - I only wished that I had found it sooner, I'd be able to get in on one of the lawsuits.  I had wanted to earlier, but I was finishing college and about to start a new job.  At the time, it seemed like unnecessary drama.  But thanks for the opportunity to vent.  All I can do now is tell people not to buy Chrysler products.  So far, most people have either listened to me, or told me that they were quite aware of Chrysler's reputation and wouldn't give their cars a second look..

 Yours Truly

 Brandan T

Mon 2/16/2009 8:28 PM - Beth T

1.    I bought an extended warranty via direct mail from Chrysler Warranty and Chrysler is not willing to honor it.

2.    My Jeep Liberty has only 40,885 miles on it and the rear power window on the driver’s side no longer works at all.

3.    I have been getting the run-around from the Customer Assistance Center

Since I bought an extended warranty on 11/30/07, I figured I would call the Customer Assistance Center to see if I could get my window fixed. The customer service representative, Shelby,  insisted that I do not have a warranty. She then demanded that I fax over my bank statement with proof of payment for my warranty and the address where I mailed my payment. I complied.

When I first called Customer Assistance, Shelby told me that it appeared that the address I read off to her was for the Chrysler Corporation itself. When she called me back a few minutes later to tell me to fax her the information, her story changed. Now, she was “researching” what that address was.

After faxing in my information, another representative, Sarah, told me that my warranty did not exist and that there was “nothing” she could do about it. I told her that was not good enough. She placed me on hold, supposedly so that she could talk to her “supervisor” to see if there was anything else she could do. She then got back on the line and told me that I should go to Chrysler to get my car repaired, pay up front for the charges and then send in my receipt. But, she said, they will NOT reimburse me for the entire amount and couldn’t even tell me how much they would reimburse!

First, I was ripped off with a bogus warranty, and now, Chrysler won’t even fix a defect.  

Beth T

Mon 3/16/2009 9:22 AM - Star W

and i thought i was the only duck sitting in this stew.   I dont know what to do because im on a limited budget and every penny counts.  Im stuck, cant shift, no one can find where to even PUT the transmission fluid and whats funny?   7 mechanics refused to look at it when they saw it was a PT Cruiser.  One guy said he quit bein a mechanic because of ...DODGE. sux!

 

Thu 3/19/2009 11:29 AM - Paul

at 62k miles pump went out in tranny, chrysler would not give me any type of discount for repair, I ran a garage for 22 years and my car is very well taken care of, cost me 2300 dollars to get fixed as I had them do torque converter also. I have also put in a new battery every year and a half, not sure what is going on no draw not over or under charging, all electrical has been checked 3 times other then that my little PT Cruiser is nice to drive with lots of room, with seats down

 

Wed 3/25/2009 10:26 AM - Brandon C

I was doing a random google search for "chrysler 300m" and found your site. I can totally agree with you that Daimler Chrysler's dealership service is a "joke" However I own 2 Chrysler's. My first car I ever bought with my own money fresh into my junior year of high school was a Chrysler. Although many years before Chrysler was bought out. 1991 Chrysler Lebaron convertable. I have dumped so much money into this car and no one can understand why. The only things that have held up would have to be the interior. struts,cv joints, engine,tranny,alt,rad,wheel bearings,rods,rotors, and etc have all been rebuilt and or replaced. It's a true lemon, but I love it (first car and all.) In 2000 I bought a 300m. I loved the way the car looked inside and out. It was also Chrysler flagship. I still own it to this day. Every single window motor failed shortly after the purchase. The dealer replaced them serveral times before the problem went away. Outside of that, I haven't had any real problems with the car. Obviously now the warranty is up and the car is paid off. Although I'm not part of the www.300mclub.org I have done a bunch of aftermarket mods to the vehicle. And it has been very reliable for me. I guess you could say I have always been a fan of Chrysler and after reading the stories from your supporters, I'm counting myself lucky. I was recently planning on purchasing a Dodge Charger, Not so much now. People will always tell you things like stop being a crybaby and etc, until it happens to them. I still love the two Chrysler's I own, but I don't think I'll be making anymore purchases from Chrysler. Thanks for posting such a helpful page.

 

Tue 3/31/2009 3:44 AM - Darren & Jean

I Worked for chrysler for over 12 years, starting out as a lot boy up to a parts/service manager. In 1988 I traded my 1983 Toyota 4-runner in on a brand new Dodge Dakota 4x4. What a mistake, the front c.v shaft came off 2 times at the flange and I lost the passenger front wheel each time. The temp contol cable came off at 2 month old and then oil light started coming on when shifting (manual) The trucks oil pressure was master guaged, and indeed was low in oil pressure. The engine was tore down and pump, crank were replaced, this did not fix it. I was 20 years old then, paying 488.00 per month at 18-1/4 percent intrest to have my vehicle in the shop for weeks at a time! What a crock, believe me they don't treat their employees any better! For years I seen countless people and good people for sure have to deal with shoddy Chrysler. They hide recalls, by calling alot of them tsb's and slight maintenance issues. Their transmissions had so many updates on them, and still didn't work. They left alot of people working in dealers, on the hook for problems that had existed for years! In the nineties, there was a family killed in a mini van on the 401 near Toronto. It was found that the rear liftgate on their Caravan was a faulty design and had prematurely opened, throwing four children to their deaths! The story had alot of media exposure and the next week the phones where lit up by concerned customers. Chysler told us, that there was nothing wrong with the liftgates and to tell the public that the media was exagerating. About a month later a recall was issued, and we added some cheap piece, to re-inforce the latch. Chrysler left all their employees out to dry once again. I quit Chrysler shortly after and went to work for Ford. I couldn't believe the difference between the two, the professionalism of the district managers and support staff at Ford was a vast improvement over what I had experienced over 12 years. Today, I see Chryslers, and feel sorry for the people, I think they actually believe those crap commercials of theirs. What a joke, if they spent half the money on improving quality as they do on commercials they might have a product close to the others! I will never own another Chrysler, ever!!!

Thu 4/2/2009 4:14 AM - Chase

fly by wire or die by wire did you know when you leave your windows down in a damp area many times a crysler throttle will swell up and stick ,crysler cheap crap electronic throttle swells and becomes stuck full throttle , you can always replace it with another crapy one that may last a few months longer or just throw away the whole car its safer

Tue 4/14/2009 7:23 AM - George F

I'm a D-C Quality Victim Too, and this is my story.

Three years ago I bought a 2000 Chrysler Concorde with about 88,000 miles on it. I loved the car because the original owner had opted for all the little niceties on it - sunroof, leather interior, dual power seats, auto-dimming mirror, 17" wheels, window tint, etc. I didn't have to go hunt for a V6-equipped car that was also pleasant and comfortable. The only thing I had to replace immediately was a cracked windshield (which I subtracted from the price I paid) and worn out weather seals around the doors.

I took zealous care of this car, always keeping it clean and never driving it hard, and had it serviced regularly at a AAA certified shop with good reputation.

Here are all the nonsensical things that failed - and kept on failing

- for no apparent reason.

* Weather strips around the doors - I had those replaced when I bought the car, and they were brand new parts from Chrysler. Within 2 years these new rubber pieces were shrunk and stiff and weathered, and didn't fit around the door frame properly anymore. On any other car this particular part will probably outlive the car itself. I guess Chrysler doesn't believe in getting their rubber from the same place as the rest of the world.

* Headlight seals - the rubber seals around the headlight assembly get shrunk and pop out of their place and look like crap, not to mention they don't do that thing they are named for (sealing). Virtually every Concorde / 300 / LHS I've seen has this problem.

* Power seat - the seat itself can be adjusted 4 ways for height - the front goes up and down, and so does the rear. Of all the things to break, the motor responsible for moving the rear portion up and down broke, so the seat was stuck at some ridiculous angle unless you were content with sitting like a bus driver.

* Cruise control - OK, so I pop the hood to inspect things and I notice the vacuum tubing for the cruise is old and not flexible and cracked and in general very much not keeping the "vacuum" system as such. I replaced the tubing, and my cruise worked fine... for 6 months. When I inspected the system, it looked just like last time! I think the geniuses at Chrysler didn't think that having the lines run where the engine dumps a lot of heat on them was a bad idea. So much for fixing that again...

* A/C - so my A/C stopped working. I had the system refilled with refrigerant, and I was told that there were no leaks (the guys put a dye in it to see where, if anywhere, it might leak). This worked just awesomely for my trip to Florida for 2 weeks, but by next summer I was getting hot air blown in my face again. On top of this.. 

* ...the belt that runs the A/C compressor snapped one day. Luckily this belt is not responsible for running anything else, so I pulled it from under the car and tossed it aside, never to bother again. (Got tired of fixing the A/C anyway, see above.)

* Power windows. I don't even remember how many of these I've had fixed. Finally I gave up when once, after I shut the driver's door somewhat hard, my driver side window popped out of its groove and could never be opened again without sticking out an inch from the car.

The passenger side window, while surviving to this day, would never work reliably - about 50% of the time it works every time.

* Rear seat air vents - the plastic-and-foam guide inside the vent control for the rear seat (directs air up or down) got worn out even though no one ever used it! This I fixed myself with some effort and never touched it again.

OK, these two are good ones, there's no reason on earth for these to break. I mean, on any other car.

* There is a decorative, curved strip that is at the end of the hood, where the hood meets the windshield. It is there for looks (and it does look good), and attached with metal braces underneath, to the hood. I noticed that when I would drive above about 65, one corner of this piece would catch the wind the flip up and down slightly, although this didn't happen all the time. One night on my way home, as I was accelerating and going maybe 35-40, the piece started flapping wildly and in about 10 seconds just flew off and over the car, never to be seen again. Again, I've seen a lot of Concordes with it missing around town. Now I know what happened.

* The sunroof of the car has a plastic, spring-loaded, C-shaped bar that comes up when the sunroof retracts, to keep the wind from really getting into the cabin. This bar is not under any stress, as the sunroof simply slides over it when it closes, pushing and keeping it down. Well, this wonderfully engineered piece snapped broken one day for no apparent reason... just plastic fatigue, I guess, but come on, how often does something that just sits there break?

And for the kicker... I was driving a friend to the airport one day, on a medium-length drive (Knoxville to Nashville, TN) and my car started losing power and jolting back and forth like it had a seizure, all the while making awful knocking noises. Long story short, next day I was told that I had a bad bearing on the crankshaft, which necessitates an extremely costly repair or a new engine, both of which would have pretty much been, considering all of the above, a black hole for money.

At this point I had had the car for about 2 years and put about 15,000 miles on it since the purchase date. My Concorde is effectively dead at 103,000 miles despite being taken good care of, while shedding off parts on the way.

Thank you, Chrysler, for providing me with such great transportation.

George F

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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